Wednesday, March 18, 2009

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If you had been in the Joads' shoes, would you have left your home and gone to California? Explain, giving details from the readings and videos we've watched in class to support your reasoning. ***As more posts are included, you may agree or disagree with peers, but in every case, you must back up your agreement or disagreement with further explanation and examples.*** (Respond in an organized paragraph. No fragments! No texting format!).

40 comments:

  1. I would have left Oklahoma, to go to California, because if I stayed there would be no place to live. This is because the people plowed over my house. But if I stayed I could hang out with Mully, in the fields. Also living in California would be better than Oklahoma, because there would be no dust, and jobs. The only down side for me would be traveling with my family, in an old, overloaded, car.

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  2. If I were in their place I would leave. Because the house that they lived in was being demolished in the movie we saw the bulldozers smashing the hose to the ground. Also they had no food and no crops. The harvest was bad and all the fields were jus dust in the “Dust Bowl”. I think that moving to California would be the best idea because they know that there might be work and if they can get work they can get money to buy food. They had a hard warrant saying that 800 pickers were needed to go to California. So if I were the Joad’s I would move to California.

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  3. If I were the Joad’s shoes I would move out to California. The reason why I would move out to California is this. There is nothing were they are at right now and everyone is running them out. Also the dust is really bad. That is the reason why I would move out to California

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  4. If I was the in the Joad family's shoes and would have been faced witht that situation, I would have left to go to California. I would have wanted to stay at my farm but I know that there is no work there and that I would have to leave if I wanted to support my family. It would be difficult to move to California and leave my whole life behind me but it would be necessary to survive.

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  5. I would have left as well, because it looked like nothing was happening in the mid west. I do believe they made the right choices, because these people were so cautious at the time and needed money for everything even though they had very little to none of it. Many Americans at that time were homeless and moved very frequently to find work. I do believe the Joads made the right choice of moving out west. Many people were suffering and dying every day due to sickness, disease, and some of old age.

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  6. If I was in the Joads family I would have gone to California. I would choose this because I would feel like it was the only option I had to be able to get money. In the movie they left because they had gotten a flyer about pickers needed in California. This would make me believe just like it did them, that there was work and I would end up going because it would be the only option to survival. I would have chosen to go to California.

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  7. If I were a part of The Joad family, I think I would have left the Midwest. Reasons being that the depression was in full effect in this region. Crops were not growing because of the weather, and also there was no work to receive money to pay the bills. It would have been very hard, but absolutely necessary in order to feed the rest of the family. I also think they could have gone somewhere else other than California. At that time everyone was moving to California hoping to find work. So, moving there would just be pure competition.

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  8. In The Grapes of Wrath I would move to California if I were in the Joad’s shoes. The idea of being able to work, earn money, and eat would be attractive to anyone in the Joad’s position. The main cause of moving though would be the loss of your house, like what happened to the Joad’s. The lack of income and food would also be a factor that would move you toward leaving.

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  9. If I was part of the Joad family, my decision would vary between the different family members. If I were the grandpa, I would be reluctant to leave the farm because he had been there the longest and worked the hardest for it. The others are not as attached to the farm and realize they need to move to avoid trouble. Also, the Joads are in a location with little contact with anything other than the farm. Therefore, when they got a letter informing them of work, they believed it with no difficulty. Anyways, I would have gone to California, mostly because I would not know any better if I were in the Joads’ situation.

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  10. If I were a part of the Joad Family I think that I would encourage them to move to California. I would do this because as bad as living on the road is living back in Oklahoma would be worse. Being at home would be worse because the people from the agency would knock down their home, so really it is like living on the road. And their land would no longer belong to them. Sure it would be sad to leave and I wouldn’t want to but I would need to do what is best for my family. Another reason I would encourage my family to move to California is that there is the possibility of a job there, if they stayed at home they would have no money, and they need money to survive.

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  11. If I was a member of the Joad family I would not want to go to California because I already had land and my family has lived on it for many years. If I were the grandpa I would not want to leave at all because he worked there the hardest and the longest. I wouldn’t want anyone to destroy my house and use my field to plant their own crops and make money off of them.

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  14. If I was part of the Joad family I want go to California. I agrree with hannah that their house is gone and they have nothing left to lose. I also agree with Nate that if I were the grandpa then I would'nt want to go because that is were all of his family is from and died so it is like leaving all of your memories behind.He also worked hard for the land and crops that he has been working with his whole life. it would be a hard to pick up all of your things and leave but i would do it.

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  15. Most all of the bloggers say they'd move West because of the terrible conditions. From here on, no comment to that prompt is necessary IF YOU AGREE THAT YOU’D MOVE WEST. However, if you think you'd stay in Oklahoma, share your rationale!

    If you’d move on, read the following statement:

    There is no such thing as "family" in The Grapes of Wrath.

    Decide whether you agree or disagree. Then, post your supported paragraph-length response. As always, check for accurate expression and solid support. Be sure to react to peers' comments as well as stating your own perspective!

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  16. If I were part of the Joad family I wouldn't want to stay in Oklahoma. It would be a bad idea to stay because you would have to live off the land. If you were to stay you would be all alone, maybe one or two people there with you and you would run out of food to eat and water to drink. Nate is correct with saying that he wouldn't want to move but seeing as how the grandfather had no say in the matter as to weather or not his house would come down if you stayed you would be taking a major risk. The Joad family had worked their butt's off there and they had family come and go and to have it all "fall" down at the end and up and leave is a very hard think to live with but if you stayed there you probably wouldn't last. You had to take a chance and see what's out there in California.

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  17. I disagree with the statement that there is no such thing of family in the Joad family. The Joad family is caring this because of when Tom arrives from jail the entire family is wondering how he was treated in jail. They are all concerned about how the rest of the family is doing. The Joad family is very strong with their family connections, like in the beginning of the novel Grandpa Joad did not want to leave Oklahoma for California, so the family did not just leave him behind, they went the expense of drugging him so he would come along. They were not going to leave anyone behind. The family idea is also extended to those around them, how the family welcomed the revered Jim Casey, so the family idea is not just blood relatives when comes to the Joad’s. How caring and welcoming this Joad family has shown, there are a strong connected family. So I think that there is such thing as family when you are speaking of the Joad’s.

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  18. i was not exactly sure if this queston was ours the one about family ????


    i would disagree with there not being such thing as family in the novel The Grapes of Wrath. I believe that family is one way that helped people survive during the diffcuit times.I think during this time where the dust bowl was taking place people had to help each other out even without knowing who each other might be.People had to survive and adapt to this disater just to feed there families and keep up there field where crops where being grown. It would not be easy with out family to survive.

    -cindy peterson

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  19. not sure if this was our question the one on "family" did it anyway though....


    In my opinion; i believe that there is such thing as family in the Grapes of Wrath.The Joad family made sure everyone was with them before taking off to the west,and when grandpa Joad refused to come with them they would not leave him behind.The family had to work together while packing for there trip out west.When they stopped at there stoping place for the evening ma Joad gave their left over food to other people's children.Along the way they worked with each other during the traveling ,and at times when they had to search for food to survive. I felt that they really seemed family like when grandpa and grandma Joad passed away because they were all saddened by their deaths which made it easy to tell that they loved,cared,and miss them.


    -Jessica Peterson

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  20. If I were in the Joad family I would have stayed. I would have done this because everythign that they ever knew was right there in Oklahoma, and they were taking a huge risk in leaving. If they would have gotten to california and there was absolutley no work anywhere then it would have been a waste. They also lost their grandparents in the travel, and if they wouldn't have gone that most likely would never have happened. So if I were them I would have stayed back.

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  21. I disagree that there is no such thing as "family." The novel The Grapes of Wrath is about a families struggles and journey to go west. Families stuck together and helped one another. The dust storms ruined their lands, the town bulldozed their houses. They were moving west to start better lives. When they moved west they were all looking for jobs, so they could help keep their family get the things they need. The Joad family also takes others along with them, they are loving and caring. So I think that there is such a thing as family in The Grapes of Wrath.

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  22. I would have to disagree with the statement. The family travels with each other all the time in the "vehicle." They care for each other and are sad when a member of the family dies. Another good reason to prove that statement false is when Grandpa doesn't want to leave. They try and get him to come so they can stick together as a family. Family is very important in the Grapes of Wrath.

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    I disagree with the statement "There is no "Family" in the Grapes of Wrath." Of course there is a family in the Grapes of Wrath. Even though the people who are in the family change constantly through out the book there is defidentally a family. These people are brought together by a common purpose,to make money and improve the lives of other members of the family. I would agree however that the family is not definite. Throughout the book people enter and leave the Joad family. It seems though that the Joad family is the only family defined in the book. Most of the other people are alone or don't have a family around them. I believe that the Joad family is a perfect example of a family in the book.

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  24. I agree with Jason that i would stay because it is a large risk to leave everything you know to go somewhere where you know nothing. this travel was to hard on the grandparents. Traveling was stressful so they both had pasted. I feel that in the joad family, as Joe said, there is such thing as family. They show close relationsships and feelings for each other. They show this by trying to show respect for the elders as they pass on and set them to rest as properly as they could.

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  25. In the novel, The Grapes of Wrath, there is a definite "family" between the Joad's, but there appears to be no "family" as a whole community.The Joad's all take care of one another, have respect for one another, and do the necessary acts to show their affection towards the family. Even though Tom Joad has killed a man, his mother has the same love for him as she always did. The whole family still had the same love of him as always. As the Joad's moved West they encountered many individuals who could have helped them succeed, in regards to the work and good wages, or hygiene that they could of had, but they did not have that "family" bond with them. When the Joad's were in the the camp for picking the fruit, the owners of the camp cut the wages for their own personal gain. It went from five cents to two and a half cents. With that wage cut the workers who were just trying to feed there family's could now not afford food. Their family's were now going to starve and they did not care. The owners were greedy. In the movie they said, and I'm not accurate, "We don't care if you leave or not, there are plenty more people dying to have your jobs." With that in mind it shows that there is no definite "family" connection. So there could be two sides to the story, the family's that were trying to help others by offering food and the rest being greedy and overpricing and working the farmers to death, trying to make a quick dollar. I just don't understand how those owners of the camp could sit there and watch the hungry poor people die. Parents, Grandparents, and Children were dying in front of their eyes and they did nothing about it except overworking workers that even if they did work they still couldn't feed the family.

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  26. I feel that in The Grapes of Wrath, there is such a thing called family. The Joad family does everything together in this novel. When they all decide to move to California, the Grandpa disagrees and wants to stay in Oklahoma. The Joad's did not want to leave the Grandpa back at home with nothing to live off of because they were a family and loved him. In order to get him to move they had to drug him, only true families would do something like this to whom they care about. While moving to California, the Grandpa had passed away and they were all very sad but still stood strong to keep the family together. The Joad family did everything together to keep all of them alive. They tried to stick together as much as possible while moving and they all had to search for food that everyone could eat. The Joad's were definitely the family type people in this novel/movie, therefore I disagree with the statement above.

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  27. I disagree with the statment that there is no such thing as family. You have to be a family for support to get through those hard times. For instance when Tom comes back from jail. They were a family and they were concerned about him. They also have to be a family to survive the death of their family members. Its hard to get through that, but they have each other.

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  29. I believe there is such a thing as a family in the Grapes of Wrath. Everything that this ordinary family goes through would be very hard if they were not there for each other. Even families today would have trouble with having no house, food, or friends. With all the moving from place to place it would be very difficult for a group of people to not get mad with each other. The Joad's are a true family, they are there for each other and will always be.

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  30. I disagree with the statement that there is no such thing as "family" in The Grapes of Wrath. I believe that there is family going on because throughout the whole book it talks about how the Joad family was together. They helped each other through the some of the worst times in their lives. Like for example when they all went west from Oklahoma to California. Grandpa did not want to leave, but the family did not leave him behind and they all stuck together. The Joad family always watched for each other and cared of one another. They all were looking for jobs so that the men could keep their family alive. The Joad's traveled together in their huge vehicle and worked together, and they all just loved being with each other. I do believe that there is family in The Grapes of Wrath.

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  31. If I was in the dust bowl I probly would have gone crazy. I would not want someone to push me off my land. If I did move I would move north and herd the cattle. I would not go west because it is to crowed. I would not be able to be with my family for that long because I do not like to be with my family.

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  32. If i were in the Joads family I would move to California. This is because I would want to create more opportunities for a better way of money income by moving a lot. The cotton field may be better than 1 dollar for a ton of peaches from where the Joads last were. The Joads dont stay to attached to the people and places they go to/meet. This makes it easy for the Joads to move without too much regret (after being forced off their farm).

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  33. I disagree that there is no such thing as a “family”. The book The Grapes of Wrath is all about how a family needs to work together. There lands were ruined from the dust storms and people bulldozing there house down. When they were on there way to the west they had to work together and help each other out. If someone of the family would have stayed behind they would have ran out of food very fast. Also they would probably get really lonely and miss there family. I agree with Lizzie when she says that it was very caring that they took others with them. I think that is very nice to do. So I think that in The Grapes of Wrath there is such a thing as a “family”.

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  34. I would leave if I was in the Joad's position. The reason why I would leave is because the dust would have been too much for my family. Also, my familt does have little kids that are very vulnerable and there is no way I would ever have them be exposed completely to the dust that has been killing so many other people.

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  35. In the story The Grapes of Wrath the concept of family is presented through out. The Joads stay together through tough time and try to make the best out of what they have left. When grandpa refuses to go with them west, the family forces him to come with them this shows that they will try to stick together. Another example of the Joads being a family is when both Grand parents become stick the Joads try to nurse them back to real health instead of abandoning them. The Grapes of Wrath may not show the model family, but it shows what a real family may expierence.

    P.S my internet connection was down last night

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  36. I think that if i were in the same situation as the family i would of deffinately gone to Claifornia. It must have been a very hard for the family to make their decsion. They had to make the best decsion though. There was no job oppertunity and they may not have survived if they hadent moved.I also along with others disagree with the statement "there is no family" they had to make very hard decsions through out the entire novel and movie togeather. They could not have been made by one single person. It was a very hard time for the family and needed one another to stay strong. They are decsions that they could not make alone, they had to make them as a family. This family did everything togeather, when the grandpa did not want to go they as a family tried to get him to go. Tom wanted to make his mother happy because she hadent been treated well in a long time. They all cared about eachother very much. They all cared for grandma when she got sick too and were very worried about her.

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  37. I disagree with the statement that there is no "family" in the Grapes of Wrath. The Joad family had to go though some hard times together and they stick together all the way through. First they have to leave there home because they are taking down the houses and there is nothing left of their farm. While they are on their way to California both the grandparents pass away and they had to keep going and not think about it to much. Also the whole family has to work even the kids just so they can eat. They have to watch how much they eat so that everyone has something even if its not enough to fill them up. Ma Joad is the one that keeps them going and doesn't let them give up. I think that if a family can go through all that and stay together they should be considered a family.

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  38. If I were in the Joad's shoes, I would have moved to California. I would have moved because they were going to demolish my house and everything on my land. There would not e any work for me if I stayed. There was not any food or crops either. I think moving to California would be the best choice because there may be work there. I think there is such thing as family in The Grapes of Wrath because the Joad's made sure that everyone stayed together and was fed before they let other people have their food. The Joad's are a family.

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  39. If I where a member of the Joad family, I would have stayed in Oaklohoma. The conditions might have been uncomfortable, but it would have been better to stay where my home is, then go to a new place, only to be worked like a dog and exploited, and then be mistreated by the citizens there.

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  40. I disagree and say that there was "family" in The Grapes of Wrath. I think that because they never left any family members behind while setting off to California to try and start their new lives. The example that really shows the importance of "family" is when the Joad's are about to leave for California. Garmpa wouldn’t leave because he doesn't believe that they should. But instead of the Joad’s leaving him there, they made sure he was in the car with all of them. This shows that they really cared about their family members no matter how old they are and how easily they could have let him stay there and live on his own.

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